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Old 01-08-2003, 01:17 PM   #1
 
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Post I Require the Talents Of Expert Addon Makers For a Special Leafs Conversion

(I can list my idea's now in full as I have you guys as witnesses to my project, I have been ripped off before making mods for other games and conceptual ideas, so I was using caution this time around, better to be safe than sorry)

My aim is to do a total remake of the Leafs from their last cup winning year of 1966-67, Sorry long List Now, But it is a total conversion so what would you expect plus it's 100% Historical to who they are and 90% Historical to what they wore back in the good old days and played on.

I have been researching this for just over the last month now, and this is what I have come up with.

Rosters: -

I will be using a roster and deleting all the current Leafs and I will be adding the 24-man squad from that season into the Roster complete with Full stats such as DOB, Positions the usual stuff and also the skill level of each player.

Along with the rosters I will hope to be doing a full 24 player photo pack to accompany the rosters and Arena Pics.

Right now I think cyber faces will be to long and hard to do, I realise that players back then did now wear helmets / just starting to, but for NHL 2003 I know that they have to wear them so no real big deal for that, But I think it will be to time consuming to do, so no cybers will be made at this date every player will have the same face for now.

Back then players did not have their names on the back of their jerseys this came around in 1980 when the league made it a new rule to display player names, for this mod only I will also include player names on their backs just so you know who you are playing with just in case you don't associate that number to a player (this was also why that rule was brought in during 1980 as the league also thought fans and new followers to the game might not know who is who etc.)

There will not be any in game player specific speech I.E Sundin shoots the puck he scores, so it will just be the basic wow look at that score look at the goal.



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Jerseys I wish to enlist the help of a well talented jersey maker to recreate the exact style of jerseys worn back in this time period, I.E no mesh material etc. Unless this can't be done then no big deal, but the jerseys have to be accurate as possible logo and style wise to back then. Same goes for socks and pants, also pants should just be blue and white with no maker makes I.E Nike CCM etc. Maybe an older style Leafs Logo but I'll have to research that to see if they did or did not have team logos on pants back then, I don't think they did.

Jersey style will be taken from the Cup Finals of that year as the Leafs played in a few jerseys with different styles of Maple Leaf logo's.

On a History Note I believe still back in the 60's Blue was for home and white was away for the Leafs, I need help on that any fellow Leaf / Hockey historians out any assistance on that would be grateful.

Player Equipment (Just sticks) I want these to be just plain brown with CCM in a darker brown / black on the shaft.

If anyone wishes to do these, photos will be available to post here or send in email upon request.

Gloves might also be changed to like they were back then but the style and shape as changed a lot so the temps might not allow for this in NHL 2003, If anyone is interested in Glove Making I can get pics to you upon request, again now brand names on the gloves but they are some markings in pics I have seen of the 60's Leaf Gloves.

Jersey Lettering / Numbering Maker for authentic looking 60's style numbering, Blue and white, Photos available upon request again.

NO NEED FOR SKATES, these can stay the same as they are in 2003 no one will pay much attention to the difference in shape or care about the actual rule change in skates from then to now.

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Goalie Gear: -

Way back then there were no helmet / just coming into the form of face masks only. yet again in NHL 2003 you can't have a goalie without a Mask, So I would like someone to make a Fantasy Mask in Leafs Blue (Exact Shade name is Royal Blue I believe), As there where no helmets let alone art work back then I think just the Leafs logo of this time frame should be put above the cage of the mask.

Also back then goalies pretty well wore the exact same equipment so no need to make 1 set for J.Bower or 1 set for T.Sawchuk or 1 set for B.Gamble etc. So this mod will be simple just make 1 set and every goalie on the rosters can wear the same stuff.

Goalie Pads, Blocker and Catcher, these were pretty much light tan / camel in colour when new, then when broken in they started to get a darker brown colour due to so much game usage.

Goalie Sticks, back then they were the same colour as regular player sticks, brown in colour and usually again made by CCM which would also be in brown or black lettering on the lower shaft.

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Ice: -

I'm trying to find pics on what the ice looked like back in the 60's obviously there would be no logos on the ice either, I also think that there was no mention of the Arena's name at centre ice like there is today, instead just the regular red and blue lines and marks on the ice will suffice for this mod, I will try to find pics on line or in my books about Leaf Players.

Boards: - Again No adverts on the boards here, just plain white / creamish look in colour, with the regular red and yellow and blue paint effects around the rails, But I would like puck marks and minor board wear just so it has some different colour in it to make them look so plain and boring.

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Well I think that's about it any updates will be listed in this thread, Thank you all very much for your interest so far, I though no one would care to help out let alone post here, So thanks again.

Sorry that my requests are pretty huge in this mod, But I hope you can understand I need the best add-on makers out there to help work with me on this project, and seeing as I don't make add-ons hardly at all only for personal use / not that good, that's why I brought it to your attention, Plus I'm doing the boring crap of being the book worm for historical facts and stats etc. In this mod. I'm sure making the jersey is more fun than my research crap, LoL


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Old 01-08-2003, 03:16 PM   #2
 
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Id say use Phils leafes jersey, lets pensfan66 do the pads
Ill do ice.
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Old 01-08-2003, 03:53 PM   #3
 
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Teal could you really do me the Ice???

As I have been thinking about the Ice.

If you are series I'll take you up on that offer and I'll go do research on the the ice surface I need, can you do boards too???


As for the Leafs jerseys they won't be the current ones except maybe the Heritage, I think a new temps might have to be made for thos but it might just be the way a jersey is made.
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Old 01-08-2003, 03:57 PM   #4
 
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I'll supervise. LOL!
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Old 01-08-2003, 04:02 PM   #5
 
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I'll supervise. LOL!
That's my job LoL as well as complete over haul of rosters and face packs and arena photo's. As well as all the research so fare I have been researching for about 3 weeks to get the players correct and their stats.
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Teal could you really do me the Ice???

As I have been thinking about the Ice.

If you are series I'll take you up on that offer and I'll go do research on the the ice surface I need, can you do boards too???


As for the Leafs jerseys they won't be the current ones except maybe the Heritage, I think a new temps might have to be made for thos but it might just be the way a jersey is made.
I cant do boards that well but I can do some pretty kick ass ice.
what era ice are to looking for?I can do jerseys but not as good as some people on here.

Yea Ill give the ice a shot.
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That's my job LoL as well as complete over haul of rosters and face packs and arena photo's. As well as all the research so fare I have been researching for about 3 weeks to get the players correct and their stats.
OK can I be assistant supervisor? Or like Slave Driver to the workers or something.

I am really bad at addons so I can't offer alot of help.
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Old 01-08-2003, 04:07 PM   #8
 
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Thanks Teal ice should be pretty easy to do no adverts no nothing I'll try and get a picture up on here by the end of today, the ice will be from 1966-67. The boards will be easy to do to NO ADVERTS LoL just need a correct looking colour scheme with some puck and stick marks on them etc.

if you need any further infomation I can be reached on MSN messenger leafs_fanatic@hotmail.com (Don't send email there I don't check it)

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Old 01-08-2003, 04:09 PM   #9
 
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I can give the boars a shot but I wont promise you anything.
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Old 01-08-2003, 04:14 PM   #10
 
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I could be a real prick, fins the graphic(s) for the glass and make it/them 100% trasnparent.
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got any pics of this goalie gear?
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here is a first try at boards, this is the corner board
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if you want these, contact me lol... I made these for my game recently
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wow not bad dude.

I cant get mine to import in 2002, i get an invisable board.
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if you want these, contact me lol... I made these for my game recently
Nice looking boards, they look pretty much like what I need, Having a hard time finding some boards from MLG that are in colour from the time period I need.

So yours could be an awesome and welcomed addition to the Leafs mod I'm doing.
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got any pics of this goalie gear?
Hi PF66 thanks for your interest pics will be posted here of what the goalie stuff will look like.

Also A Fantasy helmet needs to made and a stick.

For the goalie gear as this total conversion is for the 1966-67 season there were no adverts on pads etc, all are basically the same colour thus the goalie mod will be perfectly fine for all 5 goalies that played for the Leafs in 66-67 so will the stick only the stick has an advert on it of ccm in dark brown or black lettering on the shaft.

As the game does not allow players just to play in hair a helmet will have to made, I think this should be in Leafs Blue which I think is Royal Blue and as this will be worn again by all five goalies just to keep things simple it should just have a vintage Leafs logo on the front for the art work, as we all know there were no helmets back then let alone art work, so this saves time and hassle by the addon maker.


If you need more pics please email me and I'll send them on to you.
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Old 01-08-2003, 06:42 PM   #18
 
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Damn only shows the blocker and not the trapper

this photo shows well worn pads they usually started of camel colour for all goalies back then as that was the most common colour for that stuff, and the ones in the picture show well worn pads etc, I think I want them slightly lighter than shown but I still would like the game worn rugged look on them. Also it shows the internal colour of the pads which look a an off white going grey just in case the temps for the pads show some internal colour.
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Old 01-09-2003, 01:59 AM   #19
 
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Completed Components

Arena Photo Packs Done (Large and Small)

Player Photo Packs Done (Large and Small)
***Old Time Hockey Fans and Leafs memorabilia collectors will love what I have done with the roster face packs they are authentic!!!***

UPDATED 9th January 2003 02:40 PT: -

Added Utilities such as GFXPAK and NHL View just to make this a hassle free update for newbies to advanced users so everything is there that they need and no searching on the net for these Utilities.

Also working on complete readme's for each version of the addon in full again so everyone from a newbie to advanced knows how to install it. There will be a total step by step idiots guide of what to Install first, I want to make this addon easy enough so everyone can get it to work!!!
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We used to have pads like the old school Johnny Bowers! Til I painted them. Anyways, I am tryin to recreate the paint job I did for them
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I had some great presents for Christmas this year my dad came over from Britain and gave me $100 Cdn as a present and I bought myself the Johnny Bower and Frank Mahovlich Leafs signed matted and frammed 8x10's from Canadian Tire, I saw them before Christmas for $90 Cdn each, after Christmas they had them on sale for $44.99 Cdn Each so I bought them both for what one would of costed before Christmas.

They look really awesome nice clean tight autographs excellent designed matting with leafs pin badge and etched name plates for both players. If you are a Leafs fan quickly get them as Canadian Tire is selling out fast, Plus I noticed them on eBay for $35 US recently, Beckett has the prices for just an unframmed un matted Bower at $20 US and Mahovlich is $30 US and look at the Cups those guys won 4 Stanleys and 2 vezinas for the "China Wall" Johnny Bower and 6 Stanleys and a calder Trophy for Mahovlich and both are HHOF'ers.

I will never ever sell them but what an investment for that sale price, and boy do they look excellent hanging together in my Maple Leafs Themed Locker Room Den.
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holy crap, i mite actually try to make one last addon :O i'll try the gear i guess....oh yeah, and OEdit my friend, no helmet OEdit
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oh..pens fan is doing them. i'll do them if i'm ever bored...which is all the time...lol
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anyone doing the jerseys yet?? if not i can do those, i cant find any pics of thier white jersey, i found plenty from their blue one
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anyone doing the jerseys yet?? if not i can do those, i cant find any pics of thier white jersey, i found plenty from their blue one
No I have no one pencelled (confirmed) on those, So you are the first, If you are still interested please let me know and here are some white jerseys too, thanks for your interest

From the research I have done this is what they wore in game 6 VS. Montreal in 1966-67 but also that season they wore what is similar to their current 3rd, also see attached picture in next post.

I would rather have the jersey of what they used in the finals myself, if thats ok, also if you would be doing socks, sticks and possibly gloves, just use my Tim Horton Sig as reference.

On the point of jerseys is it possible to make them so they have no under arm mesh and airnit holes??? just so they look like the vintage wool material that was used, I know I'm probably limited by terms of temps and what EA has done to this, So i'd be happy either way really.

Once again thanks for the interest in the jerseys
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Leafs Heritage.

This is on of Johnny Bowers actual game used jerseys in the HHOF
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oh..pens fan is doing them. i'll do them if i'm ever bored...which is all the time...lol
na,go for it custo.these pads are way beyond my skill level,you do it.
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holy crap, i mite actually try to make one last addon :O i'll try the gear i guess....oh yeah, and OEdit my friend, no helmet OEdit
sweet, maybe you and Pens_Fan_66 could do a co production.

OEdit sounds good to me so the goalies do not need masks keeping with in this actual era, at this stage all the other players will need to wear helemts so maybe the goalies should too, just to be in keeping with the rest of the players so they don't look out of place

Right now I don't really want to get into making 24 cybers faces for the squad or asking anyone else to do them, so with the goalies wearing the masks that will elimintae 5 cybers, and as for the other 19 players right now they will all have the same default faces as one another.
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anyone doing the jerseys yet?? if not i can do those, i cant find any pics of thier white jersey, i found plenty from their blue one
Oops just as an update / reminder, Back in the good old days of hockey on the jerseys they had no NHL shield Logo on the lower rear of the jersey and no CCM / KoHo on the rear neck line.

As for fight straps I believe some players had a custom install of these going on in 1966-67, But they are not like they have today, so I'm not to sure if I want the modern ones on the jersey either.

Maybe just keep the jersey blank except for Leafs logos and colouring, just so it looks 90% Authentic to the original back then.
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In Need of Advice

Just been thinking say I use the current rosters and current photo packs for the 2002-03 season and play a game so say a player gets 2 goals and an assist and is 1st Star, does the star photo use the exact same photos from the small and large photo pack located in: -

C:/Program Files/EA SPORTS/NHL 2003/fe/nhl/images/faces

Just that I have remembered when I play a game and say Lumme is the 1st star for the Leafs although his roster face packs show him in a Leafs uniform but for what ever reason for the games stars he his wearing his Coyotes jersey.

So if I use my photo face packs for the 66-67 Leafs team (large and small), any ideas what will happen to the games stars photos will they be blank or crash the game.

Anyone know how to edit the Game Stars photos?

Any advice and assistance would be great.

Thanks.

(Hopefully if I can at least get the rosters / all photo packs and arena pics then I might do them for the other remaining Original Six Teams)
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