wanger

I just want to say that there is a certain point when just recolouring a jersey isn't enough. The point of this project is creative jerseys. There can be a few recolours but overall, we want new stuff. Expect a Ottawa jersey sometime next week.

@Para, lol I'll take some credit but a lot of it goes to AnaDuck.

@Doran, Looks like it could have potential. mix things up a bit, don't be afraid to try new things. Just save before you do and if you don't like the result, you can just go back. Also, try to make the lines more....sharp/not bad edges (I hope you know what I mean).

Nice job all

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Karloos

I don't understand why some of you guys just use the McEdge Template. it only comes with preset stitching and mesh. all you can really do on it is color and add logos. With the McTemplate 2.5, you can stitch the way you want, you have a vast choice of mesh, an even bigger choice of collars and more. The McEdge Template was made specifically for All-Star Edge-looking jerseys.

Again, I don't understand.

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wanger

@Karloos: Idn man. I guess since we called this the Rbk Edge 3rd Jersey project, everyone started to use the McD Edge. I think its because its like the newest or something, so I guess we would all assume it would be the best if you were to make an "Edge" jersey.

Anyway, heres a WIP of Ottawa. Some lines aren't sharp enough I know. Also, I don't like my little triangle thing like with the red and white or w/e so I'd like some opinion on that, like what I should do instead. Also, general C&C please! The Logo looks like shit, but after cresting should be good.

Credit: McD Template, CgyFlames: Basic Design. To me this looks like Ottawa through the years. Stripes: old, Black: 3rd jersey before Edge, Red thing on the side: Edgeish

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plymouthrelient

Well doesn't the McEdge template have different shading so the jersey looks like it's tighter-fitting in game? It also has accurate mesh for an Edge jersey.

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DucksFan

Get an edge jersey, the mesh isn't that different. And we already went through the whole tighter fitting in the game. There is no such thing basically. Not with Ea's Crappy models. The mctemplate 2.5 would be much better for this...

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OK OK. How bout this. The maker of the jersey uses the template they want. As long as it isn't just some recolour thing. If they want to use the McEdge, they can, if they want to use 2.5, it's their choice. This is about jersey's. So please, comment on the ones posted. Don't want a flame war to start.

Here's an example:
On topic: I think maybe if I do the red in that stitching area, it may work. Any thoughts??? Maybe I should add stripes under the arms like the Tampa ones. Thoughts?

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@DucksFan:The Mesh isn't that different but it is still a bit different. If you want, I'll post a pic of my Oilers Rbk jersey and one of my old KOHO/CCM one.

@Doran: I just realized how hypocritical I was being. I can't get sharp/clean edged lines either lol. Just try your best and then we'll send to AnaDuck. Although he says stitching isn't one of his best strengths.

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Doran

Yeah, it is very difficult. I was just copying DRutka's lines. I also screwed up big time. The new things on the front of the jersey? Those aren't shape layers, but paths. I didn't understand the difference between them at first, but now I do.

For those that don't understand, the sections in the McEdge template under Flats are shape layers (rasterized, I think). I changed a setting so that I made a path instead, and by the time I realized it, I was too lazy to go back. That, plus my computer loads the McEdge template very slow with only 512 MB of RAM. I can't quickly change colours on my paths like I can with shape layers. Some day, when I have time, I'll fix it. Right now, it doesn't make much of a difference.

@Karloos: I do NOT know how to stitch. Everybody says to make a 1 pixel line. Even McD says it in the readme for the McTemplate 2.5. But I think I must be too stupid to understand what he means.

With the lack of actual help, instead people just saying "stitch!", I can't do anything about it.

I drew a lot of other shape layers (yes, actual shape layers for these ones) from DRutka's jerseys that I exported from BigGUI. Like shoulder boxes, as well as all of the collars from the McTemplate. Hence, why you see combination of the "RBK collar" from the McEdge and the Lace-Up collar from 2.5.

(I called it the "RBK collar" with quotes because it is nowhere near the actual RBK collar of the actual jerseys. DRutka's is accurate.)

wanger

Like I said, don't worry bout stitchin. If you can't/don't have the tools, AnaDuck can do it.

Anyway, could I please have some C&C on the Ottawa Jersey? I made the red triangle within the stitched line thing so yea.

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thinkfast

i would make the striped template only on the back, the front would be all black and the red things on the top that make a triangle i would make them really thin, also i would make it on the back the name would go on a black piece maybe like the previous black and red buffalo jersey

wanger

wait, so you're saying you want the Senators Logo on the back??? hmm, I'll think about what you said but, truthfully, I think strips just on one side might be weird. Like I said, I'll think bout your crit, but also wait for what others have to say. Idn if breaking symmetry is good here.???

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thinkfast

nonono sens logo on front it would be dumb to put on back. yeah i thought about it maybe bad idea to make it stripes and no stripes. maybe just correcting the pattern on the front so that it would be in order u put black red black wheres whte and if black is sharper it would be great jersy

CgyFlames

Here's a very high-quality version of my Ottawa logo that should improve the jersey. The jersey looks good otherwise, but let me just note I had in mind black shorts, socks, and helmets when I thought this up. The shorts and helmets would be the same as usual. The socks would have a red stripe over a white stripe, or something similiar, but classic style, not the RBK edge curved stripes. (Those are so ugly.) Also, shrink the logo a tiny bit and offset it between the stripes a little so that the stripe pattern behind is not lost.

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Para

Ok. then. Good work AnaDuck. But when we get the new stuff?

@Wanger
The collar of the jersey, is in the "old" blue.

Taknarosh

Here's one I made a while ago to replace the away jersey:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6...owback1pz9.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3...owback2wn0.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1...owback3ql1.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2...owback4ci8.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8...owback5uy9.jpg

I experimented a little with the underarm colors and shoulder patches.

wanger

@Para: I'm getting an ingame today from AnaDuck. This is out of my hands now. If it doesn't look right then I will ask AnaDuck to change it.

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Doran

Ok, I couldn't get on NHLDepot last night (again) to offer my C&C on the Ottawa jersey but now I can.

Absolutely keep stripes on both sides!

Border the red triangle at the top with a thin black line, I think, and make it a tad smoother. After that it should be good.

wanger

@Taknarosh: I like the jersey in the last 2 pics. The first one was too weird under the armpit.

@Para: the light collar doesn't make that much of a difference as you will see in the next few pics.

@Doran, I think I'll just try CgyFlames's ideas. Idn how a black line would look surrounding the red and without a pen tool, it'd be hard to get that sharp, I think.

Anyway here's the ingame for the Panthers Jersey. I scaled down the pics a bit.

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AnaDuck

i like these. far better than mine.

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Umm I just want to say something. I just learned this.
Most people's flats look like this:


Well, I think its because I have photoshop elements, my flats look like this:


Is this just because I have elements or because I have some option off? But anyway, that's why my things aren't sharp.

Oh and that's the updated Ottawa, with no wordmark on the pant yet and the socks, I gotta leave to AnaDuck.

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Karloos

you need photoshop CS/CS2/CS3

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wanger

Yea that is the problem I guess. See CS/CS2/CS3 all cost a lot of money don't they. So to me, its not worth it. I'm not going into graphical design so Elements kinda suits my needs atm. Me and AnaDuck said that I'll just make another Layer over flats with all the new design, but that kinda means he's doing a lot of the work. This sucks.

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wanger

Yes, I know another double post. Different topic though so yea.

Anyway, heres the simple Atlanta Concept by CgyFlames with a bit added. Comments and Criticism Please. I'm not sure about those Atlanta logos on the side, but the jersey just seemed too simple. Socks, as usual will be changed. I'm thinking Red socks with blue and yellow stripes.

Credit McD: template, CgyFlames: Concept

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Doran

Yeah, that's just because you have Elements. That also explains why you don't have the pen tool. I have PS 7.0, and my flats still look like that.

Atlanta jersey: Umm... I think a stripe at the back that curves just above the Thrasher logos on the sides would be neat.

And I'm not liking the "ATLANTA" logo.

wanger

Do you mean from the sleeve to the collar or from the very bottom to the collar.

Also, are you not liking the Concept of the ATLANTA or just that the logo doesn't look sharp.

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plymouthrelient

Hey wanger, if you want I can clean up your jerseys a little bit. Shoot me a PM and I'll give you my email so you can send me the PSD files.

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CgyFlames

Comments on Atlanta jersey
-Red socks are exactly what I had in mind. But no Edge striping please. I can make socks for you if you need me to, BTW
-Scrap the logos on the side. seriously.
-Don't C&P the wordmark from my concept. If you want send me the PSP and I'll put hi-res, crested letters on there myself.
-I was thinking it'd be neat to have one shoulder patch the main crest, and the other the t-bird.

wanger

@plymouthrelient: Thanks for the offer. I don't want to give you any extra work. Plus my design method is complicated because I have elements. But if you still want then PM me with your email. I think in the end, that would save AnaDuck some time.

@CgyFlames. How bouts I send you what I've done (minus the logos on the side). Like I said, the layout will be weird. Can you PM me with your email. You will get full credit for this jersey because basically all I did was recolour it.

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thinkfast

Atlanta should be written on both sleeves, not on front. also im not liking everything red only sleeves and sides should be red front and back should be white i would also remove logos of off sides make shoulder navy blue and front logo would be the one that u put on the sides instead of blue and red line around neck it would be gold like the atl logo. also arond neck shoudl be navy blue yeah so major modifcations not like the other jerseys.

CgyFlames

Make your own Atlanta concept if you want all that. It's my idea so it's not going to change that much.

Wanger: I got your files. I'll do my work on them sometime early next week, hopefully, and post them here. Cresting, drop shadows, socks, pants, and maybe some other minor changes.

wanger

Sounds good! We were gonna update the main topic but AnaDuck keeps getting disconnected. I think I'll make one.

* Anaheim Ducks - not started
* Atlanta Thrashers - WIP CgyFlames + WIP AnaDuck and Wanger (perhaps)
* Boston Bruins - 2:WIP plymouthrelient and WIP hotsforwayze
* Buffalo Sabres - not started
* Calgary Flames - not started
* Carolina Hurricanes - not started
* Chicago Blackhawks - not started
* Colorado Avalanche - not started
* Columbus Blue Jackets - not started
* Dallas Stars - not started
* Detroit Red Wings - not started
* Edmonton Oilers - WIP Wanger
* Florida Panthers - Done Wanger and AnaDuck
* Los Angeles Kings - not started
* Minnesota Wild - Done by machoman
* Montreal Canadiens - WIP Taknarosh (I hope)
* Nashville Predators - not started
* New Jersey Devils - WIP tarzan
* New York Islanders - not started
* New York Rangers - WIP plymouthrelient
* Ottawa Senators - WIP CgyFlames and Wanger
* Philadelphia Flyers - not started
* Phoenix Coyotes - not started
* Pittsburgh Penguins - WIP sonicity
* San Jose Sharks - not started
* St. Louis Blues - not started
* Tampa Bay Lightning - not started
* Toronto Maple Leafs - WIP Doran
* Vancouver Canucks - not started
* Washington Capitals - Done byAnaDuck

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