wanger

I think this will be a pack according to the post above. Hopefully I will see AnaDuck online sometime, the time difference is pretty big. Then I can learn . If not I have lots of good concept finding abilities, and even made my own concept up, with credits to another for a logo.

And I don't care either how much this gets downloaded, I'm usually bored so I could use the spare time to do something productive.

Edit: It looks like you're almost done with this. Obviously you have another 3rd jersey in mind for Anaheim, but I'm going to post a concept I thought looked nice. I may try this one, if I can. Please C&C if you think it is a good or bad jersey and maybe changes Credit: Ghettofarmboy. Btw, this might be a bit hard for my first, idn, so if it is I will find a different concept for a different team!

Logo & Secondary (colour change):


Oh Gawd! I just realized I have Photoshop ELEMENTS! Does that make a difference? Idn if it has the pen tool. Gdmt If I can't make jersey's with this I guess I'll have to resign from doing any actual work and instead be a design finder.

Ok, since no one has posted I'll continue my long post. I tried doing a very simplified version on the jersey above. I don't think it looks too good. I have no pen tool if that matters This is about 1-2hrs of work. I can't figure out how to get the socks darker. Also, I wanted to outline the black with white, will that look better and if so, is there a way I can do it that it will be sharp too. I tried and it looked real bad.
Well C&C, what to change, and how to change it. If you guys like it, I'll send it to Anaduck to touch up and make look even more amazing if I myself can't. This is just screwing around, no tutorials or anything. I don't think I crested either (I'll have to figure what that is and find a tut) My RBK logo looks like crap. I'll hopefully edit that.

Also, I don't know if this is even a proper texture. I hope it is, but my cyberfaces were screwed so idn. Oh and I realize the problem with the black on the right side, it's already fixed.


Oh right credit: McD for template, AnaDucks for letting me try to be part of this, and my brain and free time. lol.

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turco35

keep it coming. I was thinking the big D from the ducks on orange jersey as possible 3rd. also, maybe Dallas road in green and NYR for rangers

DucksFan

I did a Ducks one already. Maybe you could use it?

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AnaDuck

I already have this one in my game. Just amazing. Do you have it as a .psd file? Maybe I'd alter it a bit (add some gold etc) ^^

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wanger

Oh well lol, I forgot that it's already been made. Now I don't have to try to make mine look good. I'll try some other concept. General tips on how to make a jersey look good would be nice, even though that concept has already been made.

Now I feel like crap for wasting 2 hrs working on something that looks like shit and that's already been done!

Ok well I was thinking of trying this Panthers white concept. It's basically the best I could find and it's simple:



I also have a Thrashers logo that's a compilation of other concepts. If someone would like to try it, go on ahead. It's too advanced for me.


I think a few good additions to your uniform Ducksfan are the shoulder patches I have and the Wordmark on the pants if you do not already have them.

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Para

@Wanger

First, your ideas aren´t crap!
Maybe i`ve got an idea or you. Take the red one. Because, the panthers got a white one and a black one.

So please take the red, fill the blue lines darkblue (the same colour like panthers have for the dark jersey, but the little white stripe are good)!

wanger

I've already got the the jersey mostly done for first rough draft so I'll go with it. However, I will use those new logos that you found. They look really good, especially the Panther. If it doesn't look very good then maybe I'll switch the jersey up but my skills aren't that good so I didn't think I could tackle it.

Here's the link for the other logos (Anaheim)

Ok well here goes. Rough Draft 1 for the Florida Panthers. If you guys like the concept/jersey and think it's a good start I will work on it a bit more then send it to AnaDuck. C&C What do you like, what do you hate. Changes? I was thinking of taking the blue/purple from the Panthers logo and using that instead of the blue I have.
Credits: McD temp, AnaDuck letting me help, Ghettofarmboy logos, some unknown guy, part of jersey concept. Don't throw up at the ugliness.

Please for the love of god do not manually place this into your game

Concept taking down until more clarity is found

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Aero-82

nhllogos.blogspot is a really great site for me (I like fantasy, variety). And I like your idea about fant. jerseys in NHL08. Keep it up, guys.

DRutka

Just make sure when you use a concept like the Anaheim, Atlanta, and Florida ones above, you get permission before using it or releasing it. Most of those concepts were originally released at sportslogos.net and are used elsewhere by PERMISSION.

If you think you might get ripped for stealing work here, if you steal from over there, people threaten, have filed, and have won lawsuits for stealing work and/or concepts, so just be careful.

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wanger

Oh shiz really DRutka? So nhlblogspot might file lawsuits. Ok, I will email the admin of that site and ask. Email sent.

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DRutka

Blogspot uses those concepts by permission from the original creators. Most of the designs above, like I said, were previewed at sportslogos.net. The artist are trying to actually sell some of those concepts and they are copyrighted.

I have asked permission in the past about some of those exact same concepts and were not only told no, but were reminded of the copywright laws if I chose to not adhere by their wishes.

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wanger

Ok DRutka, as long as we don't release them without permission we should be fine correct?

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Yammer

can't sue if you aren't making money from the product

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wanger

This is the email back
Are you sure Yammer? Oh and DRutka, where might I find these concepts on sportslogos. If I can find emails to the designers I may be able to ask them.

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DRutka

They even get picky about using and/or previewing their concepts "in a manner not intended by the creator".

I have wanted to use those logos for quite a while for fantasy jerseys, but like I said, were not only told no, but reminded of the copyright laws.

Sometimes you get lucky and someone says yes, like cleckie did for my Vancouver concept.

I wouldn't even preview them without permission as you are leaving yourself open to being liable for violations of copyright laws.

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DRutka

Actually, you can. If you distribute someones work, thus "watering down" the appeal of such work and therefore, devaluing it, you can sue for damages.

By your logic, anyone who distributes anything, like movies, songs, games, etc., are not liable because they are not making money off of them. Hate to break it to you Yammer, but the laws and many courts disagree with your logic.

It's up to you what you do. I would never do it and put myself at risk, but if you feel the risk is worth it, or you have quite a bit of extra cash laying around and want to waste it on lawyers and possible damages, go for it.

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wanger

Well we have not distributed anything at the moment so, at least according to Chris, we are fine. Do they not have to give us a warning of some sort before they take any action? I wonder if DuckFan got permission from Ghettofarmboy. Ugh this complicates things. Anyone else know more on this?

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DRutka

Technically, you have. By posting a concept, you have made it available for people to "save as", thus allowing them to manually place in their game, thus, distributing it.

No, they could be kind and give you a warning, but if they have had this problem in the past, they might just say f-it and file suit to prove a point.

As far as Duckfan getting permission, I don't know. But if he didn't he is the one at risk, and he possibly might have put the website as risk of liability also.

Many of those concept were posted with watermarks, like the Atlanta one. Somewhere along the line, someone might have edited them and removed such watermarks. That still does not make them freely distributable though. It just puts whoever removed them at risk, along with yourself.

The easiest solution instead of asking people if they know more about this is to just ask permission from the creator... problem solved.

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Oh my gawd that's a hard slap in the face by reality. I guess some people are very territorial about their creations. I mean they're just pictures but I guess they mean stuff to the creators.

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Slomo76

And that my friend is why creators should always have the final say on who has their work and where their work gets distributed. cough cough EA Classics forum LOL Sorry Wanger that wasn't meant for you just being a joker

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DRutka

As they should be. They are the ones who put the time, effort, work, and creativity into them.

Many people over at sportslogos.net make thier living doing this stuff. Anyone who threatens that such living can be held liable.

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wanger

But would it not be a better feeling to let other people use them too? Why does a money part have to be involved. I guess human nature is greedy.

Like I said DRutka, if anyone knows where I can get the emails of the creators, such as Ghettofarmboy, I would gladly take it. As for the Atlanta one, there were no watermarks on it, And I basically just took the old logo from their old jersey's, a white version of the home jersey and put them together.

And you keep talking about these people on sportslogos. Do you wanna give me a link because I can't find the stuff there. Is it in the forums or something?

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DRutka

You are WAAAAAAAY off base there. People make their living doing this stuff, that IS NOT being greedy.

At least I'm not the one who will be held liable for leaving those concepts up on this site.

The one Atlanta logo sheet you posted, and then subsequently took down, was indeed watermarked.

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wanger

Look I took them down for now, at least the ones I could take down. So do you wanna give me a link instead of being smug about everything. ( I think I'm using smug correctly)

Ok, well I'll talk about this later. I have to be somewhere for about 2 hours.

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DRutka

First of all, I never TOLD you to take them down. I was just trying to inform you of a few things to possibly make your life easier down the road. I was trying to help YOU.

Secondly, what part of sportslogos.net don't you understand. Isn't that a link enough???

Go into the forums, under concepts, look for those designs, find out who made them, and either PM them of e-mail them.

To call me smug because I won't do the actual work for you.... well that is a little ridiculous.

Don't go and edit a post that is way up the list and expect me to go back and read it, then call me smug because you were not given an answer to an edited post.

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Wow, just about anything can turn into an argument around here, can't it?

wanger

First off I do not know the full meaning of smug, so sorry.

Secondly, I went to the site and didn't really know where to go after. I thought they would be somewhere else.

Thirdly, this is what someone said
So yea unless they register it. Unless it's different in U.S.
I wish I lived in Sweden. No copyright laws.

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Barneyhearts

well put, I couldn't agree more... I just went to this thread for the first time (I've seen it loads) hoping to see some cool addons, and I see the cool ideas... then an argument

plymouthrelient

Well I bet Pete at TBN wouldn't mind if we used some of his concepts...

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Barneyhearts

lol, judging from your context, apparently so. Here is a formal definition:

smug: conceited and self-satisfied